#17 Derek Owusu: on Will Smith, noughties grime, and the idea of The Writer

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Helloooo, come on in, take off your shoes and settle down for another episode of The You Do You Show, a weekly podcast in which Anna Richmond chats with a guest she admires about the ways in which pop culture has influenced who they are and what they do. 

This week Anna sits down with Derek Owusu, the co-host of her favourite literature podcast Mostly Lit and editor of the forthcoming anthology Safe: On Black British Men Reclaiming Space. They get through a lot from the ever-inflating ego of Will Smith, to Derek’s teen obsession with serial killers - so ahead of his time in terms of the true crime craze — and the writers he believes embody the concept of 'cool'.


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